The task for the solver, then, is to omit every instance of SO and IT wherever they occur in clue answers prior to entry into the grid. One such omission inadvertently leaves the letters IT closed up together at 26 down. In order to maintain consistency, solvers were required to omit these two letters also, leaving their squares blank.
Misprints in clue definitions spell out
SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE KURT VONNEGUT SO IT GOES
Slaughterhouse 5 regularly appears in ‘must read’ lists on both
sides of the Atlantic and in 2013, one half of this setting duo did just that. As the book begins, “All this
happened, more or less”. Our
two publications in Crossword to date have both (inadvertently) been arguably
our toughest two puzzles so far. This
may be considered to be thematically consistent with the book in this instance,
which could equally be described as a difficult read. While essentially sci-fi in nature, it dwells
on difficult issues in our past, not least the Dresden bombings and the
treatment of prisoners of war in the eponymous building. The “So it goes” motif is used wherever
death, dying and mortality occur as both a subject change and light relief,
apparently 179 times (we haven't counted them!).
We are grateful to the 36 solvers who provided comments,
bemoaning or lauding the difficulty. The
final step was correctly identified by most as a final (exhausted) “So, IT
goes” and removing the first two characters from 26 down, although no-one commented upon our
tongue-in-cheek “IMPREGNABLY” that appears as a result.
The puzzle was of course, made all the more tricky by the
incorrect misprint indicator at 2d (which fortunately was otherwise a simple
‘hidden’ clue), that survived pretty much unscathed from first draft to final
publication. As Mr Vonnegut appositely
puts it, "There is nothing intelligent to say about a massacre." We can only apologise for this
aberration. So it goes!
And those comments:
I cannot see how 2dn can give a correct letter of T for KURT. 21
across is hardly fair. Much harder
than the other “C’est La Vie”
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Unusual words, tricky misprints and unexpected theme made it
difficult to get started (and to finish)
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Very difficult for second puzzle. Excellent
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Required sustained painstaking effort, but well worth it. Not sure
about some of the correct versions – 2D and 21D for example. And in 17D, Quito is a place near a great
ring??
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Can’t parse 2D. Where is the T
of KURT? Nor can I see what
extra letters at 14D & 17D between title and what he wrote. Still managed to complete it OK.
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Fiendishly difficult. Possibly
more so than the No.1. Is 2 down
accurate? KURW??? ‘So it goes’ – not
strictly accurate so or it …
Bit stretched therefore and I’ve obviously missed the point of the
final sentence of the preamble.
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Very tough but satisfying to end.
Thrown by the difficulty at 2Dn.
Surely TICAL is a weight and ‘Kurt’ requires a ‘t’.
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Certainly the puzzles this month had things in common. Dispiritingly, one key similarity was that
once you’d worked out the gimmick (or been told it) you knew that the last
few were likely to take almost as long as the rest of the puzzle. It rather went that way here. I had –AUGHT- and –ONNE- quite early, and
managed to connect them. Some nice
words and clues, but a slog at the end always lowers the rating. I can’t see how 2D provides a T, - a W,
yes, but not a T.
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None can say the second puzzle is easier! Lots of PDMs like the lone B in 5
down. I am still confused about 2
down.
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Don’t understand 2 d’s misprint – indicates W instead of T? Minor quibble – 16a – a fungus is not a
plant – FUNGI have a kingdom all to themselves. Otherwise – very nice.
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Excellent, even though I am uncertain about 2 down!
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I don’t normally make any comments about 1s and 2s, but surely this
was not a number two. 2 down is
presumably wrong (WEIGHS not HEIGHT?).
1ac & 5ac were the last clues to be solved (Z not O in 5ac). 17 down is QUITO, but I don’t know why
(great ring?) Many thanks
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I couldn’t find misprints for 14d and 17d
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That must be the most difficult puzzle I have succeeded in
solving. Obscure clues, obscure words
as solutions, an obscure author of a book I do not fancy reading. Took sheer grit to keep on trying…
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Thematic survivor? No
idea. Didn’t understand 2 down
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What a relief after MynoT’s offering!
But once again, there seems to be an error in one of the down clues –
2Dn surely leads to ‘correct’ letter W, whereas a T is required if the
author’s name is to be correctly spelt.
But at least everything is complete and explained when the theme is
finally discovered.
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I admire the construction, but the final step, if I’ve got it right,
seems a bit contrived and anti-climactic.
Not certain of a few of the misprints:
I originally had K in 21ac, noting a battle at Brecknock, but it seems
to be a polling station, and my SF associates assure me the author is KURT
VON… but I can only get a W from 2 dn,
not the required T. Never heard of the
work, the author, or the phrase in context.
I don’t think I’ve missed anything thereby.
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What is the misprint in 2D?
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I enjoyed grappling with this but now I have an uneasy feeling that I
must be missing something. I hope my
answers are right even when I haven’t understood the clues. I’ve omitted the letters IT which appear in
order once in the grid (rather than OR which appear twice) but what is the
point of asking us to do that? Thanks
anyway
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This was mega-difficult, even for a ‘first’ – far trickier than the
actual ‘first’. I was on the point of
giving up several times and then the odd penny dropped. Last entry PERLITE.
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I haven’t read the book, but had heard of it’s use of the phrase,
fortunately. Doesn’t 2Dn give W not T?
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I found this much harder than MynoT’s puzzle, particularly in the
early stages. It was a long but
satisfying tussle to finish it. I must
admit I am not familiar with Slaughterhouse Five. The misprints for 14d and 17d elude me, so
I am one word short of what must be the phrase. ‘Or’ seems the obvious word, but I cannot
make it fit the misprints or gain any confirmation for it on the
internet. The final erasure took a
little time to understand – for which I kick myself. One can only admire the grid composition.
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Took ages to get started, but had a lot of fun. I can’t quite get the right misprint in 2
down. I make the right letter ‘W’
which then gives the poor chap ‘KURW’ for a name. (I thought ‘WEIGHS’ instead
of ‘Height’ would so, making the ‘S’ (misprint) into a T, but I expect I’m
wrong). Super puzzle anyway, &
kept me amused for ages! Not sure if
I’ve erased the right thing, that’s life isn’t it?
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Tres bien! Re 2D: KURW? TEIGHT?
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An interesting puzzle on a theme that’s completely new to me. I know that traditionally the second puzzle
is meant to be easier but for me this was as tough if not tougher than
MynoT’s offering. The final stage
especially had me scratching my head trying to find a character from the book
in the grid. Hopefully I got there in
the end, but I’m not at all sure.
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There seems to be an error in the clue to 2D – the correct letter for
the misprinted definition is surely W, but this gives KURW as the author’s
first name. Didn’t understand the
wordplay at 17D and 23D.
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I came belatedly to Slaughterhouse
Five just a few years ago when I went to Dresden for a conference and
thought that I ought to catch up with it.
Had I not read it I am not sure that I would have tumbled to the theme
here so easily, but it took only two thematic lights to show the way, after
which if fell out relatively easily.
Interesting how many SOs and Its remained in the grid in reverse after
solving. I count two SOs and four ITs.
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This was tricky – not knowing which f the 25 needed amendment and
whether it would be SO, IT or both omitted added to the task. It needed t’internet to get the quote,
thought he novel & author appeared fairly early on. What happens @ 2D? I wanted ‘T’ as the correct letter. I don’t understand 1D. Quite a slog!
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I can’t see the misprint in 2 down – it ought to be a ‘t’ (to give
KURT) but only’w’ (‘weight’ needed for definition). Also, after repeated examination of the
grid I can’t see any survivor who needs to be erased as stated in the
preamble.
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Found this hard work and a while to recognise the book (which I know). Lord knows whether or not I have erased the
right item. 2D should produce a K but
I can’t see how.
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I tackled this before Mynot’s puzzle and never having read
Slaughterhouse Fice, found it quite a struggle, though an enjoyable one. Any crossword which includes the wonderful
BRECKNOCK scores high marks from me. I
presume the thematic survivor to be erased is the IT at the beginning of 26
down (Ed – it is) and found this a bit
unsatisfactory until reaching the, possibly entirely erroneous conclusion that
RON and the S_MEN appear in the book.
I’m almost ashamed to admit my ignorance, but we all have our blind
spots, and mine are bigger and more numerous than yours, so there.
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We have found this very difficult indeed. Early solves showed us (because of long
anagrams) that solutions were being cut short and it was eventually clear
that SO was going (IT came later) but the very obscure early clues
means that SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE appeared very late in our solve. There were some pretty convoluated clues and
very odd surface readings. To say that
this was tough is an understatement, but thanks to Eclogue for keeping us
busy! PS Is there an error in 2Dn> We can only find Weight – no T.
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Despite spotting the thematic requirements early, the work &
author were unfamiliar, so not so easy to anticipate misprints. Very enjoyable. This was probably my favourite of the pair
this month.
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I nearly gave up, as the hardest ;’second’ ever – but I just had
enough to suggest ‘SLAUGHTER’ in the title and then Google gave it all
away! Event hen it was far from
easy. Misprint in 2Down seems wrong?
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Couldn’t identify the thematic survivor, although 26 became one… Wikipedia was vague about the
‘phrase’. Couldn’t fina T in 2, or an O in 14. The answer for the latter is an adjective,
but the clue defintes a noun. Didn’t
‘note a certain similarity’ either…
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Having solved these puzzles in a French Pyrenean mountain village,
with no access to the iNterney, and having no knowledge of the work, we do
not see the significance of ‘C’est La Vie!’ at the ned of the preamble. Also we have KURW rather thant he required
KURT, since we rejected HEIGHT in favour of WEIGHT – couldn’t fit a T
anywhere.
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